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.Randy Harris  DOUG, you mentioned prototyping 'your computer.' Meaning your NEW computer, an all in one BIG BAD 64 on steroids!?!?
.CMD-DOUG  Sorry Robert.... GUS is the CMD computer project.
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... our own computer.
.Brenda  Do we get to know anything about this computer project?
.Randy Harris  Will it be an empty SIMM slot like the SuperRAM card?
.CMD-DOUG  Well, anything I could say about it at this point would only be conjecture.
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... probably not... if we can do it, we'll probaly use zip RAM... we're trying to fit this into a standard size cartridge case.
.C128.LOU  Will Will GUS have 256 or 512K of memory?
.Randy Harris  Or 16 Mb?
.Brant  DOUG: Would you care to conjecture about the new computer's design goals?
.Brenda  What does GUS stand for?
.C128.LOU  Graphical User System
.C128.LOU  Geos User System
.CMD-DOUG  Well, then, none of you heard this... the speculative plan is for 4 MB of RAM, an unknown amount of ROM with on-board apps, some flash memory for upgrades, three 40 MHz 65816 processors, an SVGA controller, a soundblaster compatible sound chip...
.Randy Harris  ::: chin on the floor :::
.C128.LOU  ...and backward compatibility?
.Robert Bernardo  Holy Cow!
.CMD-DOUG  Built-in ethernet, GUI interface and BASIC command line.... printer and high-speed serial port, on-board hard drive controller, built-in floppy...
.Patrick  :: fell off chair ::
.Brenda  Will it be announced on April 1st?
.Randy Harris  ... built in Coke dispenser, pizza oven ...
.Brant  YIKES!!!!!
.Patrick  Coke dispenser.......Ah!
.C128.LOU  ...and backward compatibility?
.Randy Harris  HD controller is SCSI I hope, PLEASE not IDE!
.CMD-DOUG  Probably an option for built-in modem and net-browser/email.... and it will support CD-ROM as well... and yes, we do hope to have a compatibility slot for a Commodore or Apple or other systems.
.Brenda  Commodore or Apple or other systems?!?!?!?
.Snogpitch  Gee, almost sounds like a palm top, like a newton..
.Robert Bernardo  Sounds like Amiga.
.CMD-DOUG  Probably IDE Randy... the point is to keep this cheap, though you could add a SCSI controller if you wanted to expand the system.
.C128.LOU  Other systems?!?!???? The Timex-Sinclair 1000?
.Randy Harris  Aaarrrggghhh!
.Brant  Yay for TS-1000.
.CMD-DOUG  Hey, whatever some third party wants to put in the compatibility slot.
.Brant  GUS: the Universal Computer!
.CMD-DOUG  Though I think mainly it applies itself better for 6502 or 65816-based systems.
.Brenda  Um... this sounds like a massive undertaking. Any idea on how many years it will take? (hope not years)
.Maurice  That means a SuperNintendo card.
.CMD-DOUG  Of course, this is all pretty much pie-in-the-sky unless it gets funding.
.Patrick  Web browser........ going into coma.......
.Robert Bernardo  That's right, Doug. Would you be biting off more than you can chew?
.Brant  SuperNintendore64
.CMD-DOUG  Timing? Depends on the funding level. If we get what we're looking for there, the project could be done in a year or less.
.Brenda  How will you be getting funding?
.Maurice  Brenda, in reality, CMD has already achieved much of the technology needed to do this job.
.CMD-DOUG  We'll be shopping the prototype early next year with venture captialists.
.Brenda  Maurice, but what about the "compatibility" slot?
.Robert Bernardo  Selling stock?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, the slot is the EASY part... it's filling it that takes some work. .Brenda  Are you afraid they will laugh at a 64 compatible machine? I assume it won't be presented as such?
.Maurice  That's why the slot.
.CMD-DOUG  The base machine won't be 64-compatible... that's what the compatibility slot is for. That's an engineering detail that doesn't enter into shopping the project as a whole.
.Brant  Smart move.
.CMD-DOUG  The basic idea is a modern machine that fills the market that the C-64 and others did in their day... such a machine doesn't exist today, and there IS a market for one.
.Robert Bernardo  That's very true.
.Ted  Might be better to look a bit laughable. So a person who controlls the CPU industry wouldn't take offence.
.CMD-DOUG  We don't plan on going public with this, at least initially. That's why we're going the venture capital route for R & D funding.
.Brant  Isn't venture capital the way Apple got started?
.Brenda  Yeah, I heard when the CD32 was out, the parts suddenly became scarce.
.CMD-DOUG  The machine will also ship with a built-in wordprocessor and spreadsheet, so between those and the ability to be a 'net-computer' it fills the common household requirements.
.Brenda  Projected cost range?
.Randy Harris  Will GEOS be the operating system?
.CMD-DOUG  Initially, the base configuration would probably run around $399, though in higher volume (say 1 Million units a year or more) we could get it down to $299.
.Robert Bernardo  I'd buy one (or several)!
.Brenda  Gotta hit Billy-Boy where he ain't lookin' ;)
.CMD-DOUG  Randy, the OS will be new, as it will be multi-tasking... though I wouldn't rule out similarities to GEOS for the GUI, and possibly some backwards compatibility with it.
.Brenda  So if it is only compatible with the 64 with a chip... can it do anything out of the box?
.Snogpitch  Now it's sounding like a WEB-TV
.CMD-DOUG  Snog... but Web-TV doesn't serve as a home computer. That's the difference. (Web-TV also doesn't have local storage, networking, etc.)
.Brant  With three CPU's multi-tasking would be quite possible.
.Patrick  Nice!
.Maurice  Web-TV doesn't have any personality.
.C128.LOU  Will the WP and SP software be compatible with the MessyDOS world (IE: saving spreadsheets are .DIF files?)
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, if the project gets funded, there'll be applications ready when it comes out (besides the ones that we bundle in ROM).
.Brenda  I always say, the average user does not need some $2000 powerhouse system
.CMD-DOUG  Lou, it will take advantage of STANDARDS through-out the OS and hardware design.
.Brenda  Lemme ask this a different way... what will the standard OS be, or is there one?
.Ted  Web TV is part of drive to get computing back to the mainframes.
.Maurice  Does the added processors give you the ability to have pseudo-custom chips (ala Amiga) without the high development costs of actual custom chips? Doing it in software?
.CMD-DOUG  Maurice... the added processors allow us to do much more than a single one can do at one time... the OS is not just to be multi-tasking, but multi-processor as well... tasks can be spread to processors that aren't busy at the time.
.CMD-DOUG  It also lets us dedicate things like I/O, Graphics and Sound away from the main processor.
.C128.LOU  Good idea ... the one in my PC gets awfully hot!
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, the standard OS is something new (although the BASIC will be... BASIC). ;)
.Brenda  What will the BASIC be like? Will it come with the machine?
.Patrick  Coming back down from above the clouds Doug, have you heard anything about the upgrade to Desterm?
.Randy Harris  Expansion slots? How many? Type?
.Ted  Design perameters aimed at release date, not at catching up. I think that's wahat made the '64
.CMD-DOUG  Yes on the BASIC... built-in along with the GUI... in fact, you should be able to program by typing in BASIC likd we do now, or by using a 'visual' interface to programming.
.Robert Bernardo  Will Basic be like the Basic 10 in the C65?
.CMD-DOUG  I think the BASIC will be a lot like 7.0 in the 128, though with some of the more AmigaBASIC type commands in it... and things like optional line numbers and such.
.Brenda  How would it look to program in ML on this machine in native mode?
.Robert Bernardo  Have you thought about incorporating Basic 8 commands, Doug?
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... I don't expect a LOT in the way of expansion slots... this thing is probably going into a case about 8 inches deep, 6 inches wide, and 8 inches tall.
.CMD-DOUG  Keyboard is external... sorry, PC type.
.C128.LOU  "Sorry?"
.Randy Harris  Don't apologize on a separate keyboard, that's a GOOD idea!
.C128.LOU  I consider that a plus.
.Brenda  It'll fit on our desks
.Robert Bernardo  Ahhh...a tower system.
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, the ML would be a lot like GEOS programming is now... 65816 ML with a lot of system calls.
.Bernie  A standard type keyboard will make typing easier
.CMD-DOUG  Robert... we call it a micro tower, since it's much shorter than a mini tower.
.C128.LOU  Ah! A standard tower!
.CMD-DOUG  The main reason for the keyboard is that they're very inexpensive at this point. We couldn't come close with a custom keyboard to the price.
.Randy Harris  The nice part about sep. keyboards is they are easy to replace!
.Maurice  And besides, when someone comes over to see your new computer and they see the same keyboard, they will feel comfortable with it.
.Brenda  Doug, do you think there will be a lot of system programming, or more compatibilty stuff?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda? Not sure what you mean there...
.Brenda  Do you think people will write software for the new computer first,or try to get the compatibility stuff first?
.CMD-DOUG  I think our own efforts initially will be to get people writing new stuff for it. It can't hit the right market to make it successful without that.
.CMD-DOUG  For interfacing external drives and such, we're considering using Firewire.
.C128.LOU  What is Firewire?
.CMD-DOUG  Firewire is a standard Apple came out with some time back for high-speed serial communications to peripherals... it can handle streaming video.
.Ted  Now that is forward looking!
.Robert Bernardo  Interesting...Firewire to connect digital cameras?
.Randy Harris  What about USB, will that come into play at all?
.CMD-DOUG  Randy, we consider USB to be inferior... it requires a hub for multiple devices, and isn't as fast. In other words, no on USB. ;)
.CMD-DOUG  Firewire can support up to 64 devices (with hot-swapping) without a hub.
.C128.LOU  This may sound odd, but when I think of all of the top-notch Commie users who have ditched their C= over the years and are missing these days of the Commodore World, it makes me feel bad for them. They are missing the best.
.Brenda  Lou, and I bet most of them don't do as much with their new computers (do they have them) than they did on their commies
.Brant  I agree, LOU.
.C128.LOU  I know SO MANY Beemer users that just play games, yet they call the 64 a "game machine".
.Randy Harris  WOW!
.Brenda  Will CMD be doing the C= compatibility for GUS?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, I can't imagine anyone else doing that better than us. ;)
.C128.LOU  GUS: A 2001 Oddesey
.Brenda  Hmmm... CMD is modest... but it is true :)
.Randy Harris  BTW DOUG, what DOES GUS stand for officially?
.Brenda  What about (c) considerations for the various compatibility options?
.CMD-DOUG  The socket for that will allow us to put a SID and VIC on the board, and feed the video and audio outputs to the on-board chips for mixing with the on-board video and audio outputs.
.CMD-DOUG  Randy, I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you afterwards. Sorry. ;)
.CMD-DOUG  Really it's no big deal... for now it just means General User's Computer platform.
.Brenda  uh oh... thats not very exciting :>
.Robert Bernardo  Well, we need a more exciting name.
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, well, it's just a project name for now.
.Anitra  Boy, did I miss something?
.Robert Bernardo  Plenty!
.Randy Harris  Only the news item of the year!
.CMD-DOUG  Nah, we were just mulling over... er... what was it we were talking about?
.CMD-DOUG  Of course, our secretary will dis-avow any knowledge of what has been discussed tonight.
.Anitra  So,what's the hot news? Is CMD buying Genie? (G)
.Randy Harris  DOUG, any word from Matt on DesTerm 3.00?
.Brenda  Anitra, this is better than that
.Robert Bernardo  Doug...back to the SCPU 128 front, are you taking anymore $50 deposits, or is it full price now (accepted)?
.CMD-DOUG  SCPU 128, so far as I know, we're not accepting anymore orders until the release.
.CMD-DOUG  Wow! Riverside raceway in Agawam MA is on Real-TV right now...
.Brenda  It's a hopeful new computer from CMD called GUS. CMD will be looking for financing on it.
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... no word from Matt recently, no.
.Brenda  Er, I mean it is hopeful to get financing on it.But I guess calling it a hopeful computer is accurate too :)
.Bill  I sure am glad I put my deposit down.......a long time ago
.Robert Bernardo  Oh, so that means on the first day of release I call in my order?
.CMD-DOUG  Robert, with the current pre-orders, it will take at least a month to get one with a new order once shipping begins.
.Bill  there must be a bunch of pre-orders ?
.CMD-DOUG  Bill, somewhere between 150 and 200 last I knew.
.Randy Harris  GREAT!
.Patrick  I can hardly wait for the 128CPU to come out and see it work on one of our Omni128 BBS's! I've already seen it on a 64 BBS here locally, fast!!
.CMD-DOUG  Robert, I'll be sure to post when orders are being accepted again.
.Randy Harris  Anything new to replace the sorely missed Trackball?
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... that's a maybe... we may do a generic mouse/trackball interface sometime down the road if we find the time.
.Brenda  Doug what about copyright issues on the aspect of the compatibility options?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, we'll negotiate whatever is necessary when we get to that point.
.Brenda  Will we be able to use our current hardware with the machine... with or without the 64 compatibilty option?
.CMD-DOUG  With the option there would be a serial bus connector, and mouse/joystick ports.
.Brenda  No cart/user port? How will we use the SwiftLink, RL etc?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, definately no cart/user ports.... but the emulation could handle things like Swiftlink code via the standard serial port or modem.
.Randy Harris  One more GUS question, printer driver support will be a big factor. Or will that be covered by whatever OS/software compatibility option is in place?
.Robert Bernardo  Does that number of units meet your expectations, Doug?
.CMD-DOUG  Robert... more is always better, but it's about what we expected on pre-orders, yes.
.Bill  I know a lot of people are waiting to see how it works before they order one
.CMD-DOUG  Randy, I would expect good printer support with the release. We expect to use Truetype font technology at this point, and there's plenty of info for us to create a myriad of drivers for this.
.Randy Harris  GREAT!
.Brenda  How does it compare to the Be box?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, it doesn't compare to the Be Box... I've got BeOS, and I can't even run it on my PowerPC 601 120 MHz machine... requires at least a 603e processor, and prefers a dual microprocessor system. It's like a lot of everything else out there...
.CMD-DOUG  Needs a ton of hardware to work. Other than that, it multi-tasks nicely, but it's pretty much like an Amiga... sort of a GUI over a Unix-like OS.
.Brenda  Can the GUI be "pushed out of the way"? At least like the Amiga CLI?
.CMD-DOUG  Our system is much smaller than that in scale.
.CMD-DOUG  On the Be?
.Randy Harris  I know some will want to know if there is a possibility of a laptop version possible?
.Brenda  No, on GUS
.Robert Bernardo  Doug, how do you feel (or how does CMD feel) about your current position in the Commodore universe? Are you satisfied at where you are?
.Mike B  Doug: theres a huge fllea mkt up near UMass. Ever conissider setting up there and selling C= suf to the Umass kids theree?
.CMD-DOUG  Gads, I'll have to number these... ;)
.Randy Harris  LOL!
.Brenda  the system is much smaller than what in scale? I didn't get that.
.CMD-DOUG  Okay, with GUS we haven't planned an option for pushing aside the GUI other than going to BASIC (or starting in BASIC if you want).
.CMD-DOUG  Robert... our position in the market... Well, we're on top, so I guess there's no where better to be from that respect. But surely the market is shrinking, and that's really why GUS needs to be something other than just a Commodore-compat machine.
.CMD-DOUG  Mike, we don't really sell at flea-market prices, so we hadn't considered that, no. I wouldn't doubt you'll find some Commodores there for $5 or $10 from time to time already.
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda... by scale I mean the resources involved... I doubt you'd run BeOS well on even double the RAM we'll consider to be way plenty.
.Robert Bernardo  Doug, are you ever thinking of coming back to the West Coast for another club meet/show?
.Randy Harris  Or Chicago?
.Brenda  CMD On Tour! ;)
.Randy Harris  Get your shirt now! ;-D
.Robert Bernardo  Selling t-shirts...CD's...
.CMD-DOUG  I do like to do shows when I can get away, but I can only travel like that at my own expense at this point, so it isn't often. ;)
.Robert Bernardo  Autographing for the fans...
.CMD-DOUG  Well, I wouldn't trade a Micky Mantle card for my autograph... don't think it will ever have quite the same value. ;)
.Robert Bernardo  Darn, Gaelyne Gasson wants me to pay for her ticket from Australia, too! ;-)
.Brenda  Doug... can the compatibility slot communicate with the rest of the computer? ie: could you do something in the 64 compatibilty mode and dump it into standard GUS?
.CMD-DOUG  Not sure on that Brenda... that kind of detail will come later as the compat card and software are developed.
.Brenda  Cause then you could say, type something in your 64 wp and go to a GUS prg to print it for better output or to a GUS printer driver, if it would work that slick
.CMD-DOUG  If we didn't mind leaving a hole for it, it should be possible.
.CMD-DOUG  What you'll have to bear in mind is that the software will all run in 'protected' mode... each task has it's own memory beginning at address $00000, and accessing memory from another task can only be done through a system global request.
.Randy Harris  DOUG & MAURICE, since you're both here ... SWRAP User Group in Chicago is considering hosting a (at the risk of sounding like copy-cats) EXPO, one year from now. This would compliment the one from LACC, and be a central location for the whole country.
.Robert Bernardo  Oh, good grief...another show for me to try and make. :-)
.Randy Harris  It would really only work if CMD and or Maurice were able to come.
.Randy Harris  But we think it would be a big boost for CMD and the C= market as a whole.
.Maurice  That sounds great, Randy, I would most likely come since it is not that far for me.
.CMD-DOUG  I wouldn't be able to guarantee CMD making a particular show like that...
.Randy Harris  We hoped to do it this year, but we hoped to have the Super128 as a drawing card, plus we just did not have enough time to get it organized or announced.
.CMD-DOUG  Soon, Randy, soon. ;)
.Brenda  Does that mean the 64 program would have to do the "system global request"?
.CMD-DOUG  Nope, but I see it now...
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, I can't really answer that. Up to the programmer and how HE wrote it.
.Randy Harris  Well, it's a year from now, so keep your calendars open, and suggested optimal dates in October would be helpful.
.CMD-DOUG  Well, maybe we could send Charlie Sr. ;)
.Robert Bernardo  Doug, I'm sure you have an open invitation from us at the Fresno Commodore User Group.
.CMD-DOUG  Thanks Robert, if I should manage to be heading that way, I'll shout. ;)
.CMD-DOUG  he's been around more lately... but still been quiet, as he's been busy with his consulting.
.Brenda  What does he consult about?
.CMD-DOUG  He's consulting for some lawyers who are bringing a case against Colt firearms.
.Brant  Question: Will GoDot convert JPEG to geoPaint?
.CMD-DOUG  GoDot doesn't have a JPEG loader at this point.
.Randy Harris  Why, were they making Commodore PC's? ;-D
.CMD-DOUG  Good one Randy. ;)
.Robert Bernardo  Oh, before I forget...Arndt Dettke wants me to ask you whether you have visited the GoDot site to look over the information there.
.CMD-DOUG  You're asking me, Robert?
.Robert Bernardo  Yes, Doug.
.CMD-DOUG  Yes, I've visited it a few times recently.
.CMD-DOUG  Yeah, Snog, we're in slow-down mode now.
.Robert Bernardo  Very good. I'll let him know.
.Brenda  Doug, when you use a program that reads the CMD clock, does it use device 8?
.Randy Harris  DOUG, I just want to say I appreciate you web site. The NEWS is helpful! I visit the site very often.
.CMD-DOUG  I'll probably mention it to him myself, but you can tell him GoDot got the back cover of CW #21.
.Snogpitch  device 8? I have no clock on device 8
.Brenda  Well, I have 4 devices with CMD clocks in them.
.CMD-DOUG  Randy... just wish I had something more to post into the news more often. ;)
.Robert Bernardo  Yow, the back cover of CW #21! Now that's an ad.
.CMD-DOUG  Yeah, what do Commodore users do when they want to live dangerously?
Set all their devices to a number above 8 and get out their full software collections. ;)
.Brenda  Doug did you see my question?
.Robert Bernardo  Now, I thought living dangerously was to pull out a cartridge with the power ON! ;-)
.Randy Harris  Hey, there's a GREAT idea for a program! Enter time and date and it searches all devices for an RTC and sets them! Not more doing it 4, 5, 6 ... times!
.Brenda  Hmmm ;)
.CMD-DOUG  Personally, I write such routines so that they poll all devices, and if it is a CMD device, check for a clock, and if present read it.
.Maurice  Yeah, you're right Brenda. But I remember when everybody had to be running DOS programs and they though the 64 was outdated. Now DOS stuff is outdated and I still use the 64.
.CMD-DOUG  Or SHE. ;)
.Brenda  Well, doesn't HD SET CLOCK require that you run it from a floppy?
.Randy Harris  My #1 complaint about software is being hard coded for device 8, or any other device for that matter!
.Brenda  and only checks device 8?
.Maurice  Brenda, maybe it only checks the device it's loaded from?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda... actually, the EARLY version was writtens so it only ran from the HD, and used the device nu
.CMD-DOUG  mber of the device it was run from...
.Randy Harris  echo
.CMD-DOUG  The latter is what required it to be run from the HD.
.CMD-DOUG  That was my first clock program. Sorry. ;)
.Brenda  Where are newer versions found?
.CMD-DOUG  I HOPE they're found on the newer HD disks. ;)
.CMD-DOUG  I'd have to check to see if they've ever been uploaded or not.
.Maurice  It's still pretty simple to set the clock from JiffyDos commands.
.Snogpitch  [B[B[C[B[C[B/sta
.CMD-DOUG  I don't recall when I married it with POLL DEVS.BAS, offhand.
.Brenda  Anyway, that was an answer I wasn't asking for (bonus!) What I meant to ask was what if your clock starts running slow... is the battery weak?
.CMD-DOUG  Nice, Snog.
.Robert Bernardo  Doug, what is your opinion on CD-ROM devices for the Commodore? I saw a CD in England which contained 30 games and interfaced a CD player through the joystick port of the Commodore.
.CMD-DOUG  I think it's only worthwhile if you have software producers to support it.
.CMD-DOUG  Or if CD-RW gets cheap enough to be mass-marketable to Commodore users.
.Maurice  Kinda hard to release one Commodore program on CD.
.CMD-DOUG  Oh, we're doing away with SYNTAX errors... they'll be called NITPICKS in our BASIC. ;)
.Snogpitch  Or how about instead of bad command....good command, but try again.....
.CMD-DOUG  Actually, I think they should abort with, "You should consider using commands that I can understand."
.CMD-DOUG  Anyway, I think we'll try to do syntax checking as lines are entered.
.Maurice  And when we do a command that it recognizes, it says NOS PROBLEMOS
.Randy Harris  Actually, I think 'Stick it in your ear, Moron' would be most appropriate! ;-D
.Robert Bernardo  Maurice, you just said, "Problems us."
.CMD-DOUG  Yeah, and when you tell it to shut down it says, "I'll be back..."
.Maurice  Oh well, it sounded right!
.Brenda  Doug, does it mean the battery is weak if the clock starts to slow down?
.CMD-DOUG  Normally it would lose time altogether...
.Maurice  The clock speed probably won't change until the battery reaches a certain level and then it will simply fail.
.CMD-DOUG  Slowing down might just mean the crystal is aging, and there isn't really anything to be done about that.
.Randy Harris  And 'Elvis has left the building!' when it shuts down.
.Brant  Is the clock battery in the SmartMouse replaceable?
.Maurice  These batteries are designed to fail before 2000. That gets CMD off the hook. :)
.Randy Harris  LOL!
.CMD-DOUG  If you can get one and if you can solder, it is.
.CMD-DOUG  It isn't something you'll find other than from an electronics distributor.
.Brenda  Doug, when you said you "married" SET CLOCK with POLL.DEVS, is the resulting program still called SET CLOCK?
.CMD-DOUG  Digi-Key might have them, though... (Mail-order)
.Maurice  Well, it's time for me to run. It's been nice talking and thanks for the info tonight, Doug.
.CMD-DOUG  Yes, Brenda.
.Ted  SET CLOCK JR
.Brenda  What version # is it?
.CMD-DOUG  Maurice!!!!
.Brenda  Bye Maurice!
.CMD-DOUG  Any word on that Convert info?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, no idea on the version number.
.Maurice  Oh, I forgot Doug! I will do it this weekend. Sorry.
.Brenda  Does it check each device # it finds with a clock and lets the user set it?
.Randy Harris  He'll fax it! ;-D
.Maurice  You will have them tomorrow. But probably nobody will pick them up tomorrow. So you will have them on Monday.
.Bill  Iso, are all the CMD rtc batteries soldered in?
.CMD-DOUG  Brenda, yes, it should. There may have been an interrim version that asked for the device number, too.
.Maurice  See you later.
.CMD-DOUG  Okay, Maurice. Thanks.
** .Maurice  has left.

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